Demographics of Belgium


Demographic features of the population of Belgium include ethnicity, education level, health of the populace, economic status, religious affiliations and other aspects. All figures are from the National Institute for Statistics unless otherwise indicated.

Population

As of January 1, 2024, Belgium had a population of 11,763,650 and is the 81st most populous country in the world. The population of Flanders, Wallonia and Brussels on January 1, 2024 was 6,821,770, 3,692,283 and 1,249,597, respectively. The population density of Belgium is as of January 1, 2024, making it the 38th most densely populated country in the world, and the 7th most densely populated country in Europe. The most densely populated province is Antwerp, the least densely populated province is Luxembourg.
As of January 1, 2020, Belgium had a population of 11,492,641, as compared to 2010 an increase of about 653,000. 2010 compared to 2000, an increase of about 601,000 people. 2000 compared to 1990, an increase of about 291,000 people.
The following demographic statistics are from the World Population Review in 2019.
  • One birth every 4 minutes
  • One death every 5 minutes
  • One net migrant every 12 minutes
  • Net gain of one person every 9 minutes

Fertility

The total fertility rate gradually increased during the last decade from 1.60 in 1997, 1.65 in 2002 and 1.82 in 2007. The rates in Brussels are higher than the national average, while they are below the average in Flanders, due to the higher percentage of non-European immigrants with higher birth rates in Brussels.
The total fertility rate is the number of children born per woman. It is based on fairly good data for the entire period. Sources: Our World In Data and Gapminder Foundation.
Years18301831183218331834183518361837183818391840
Total Fertility Rate in Belgium4.724.774.824.874.924.974.974.984.984.995

Years1851185218531854185518561857185818591860
Total Fertility Rate in Belgium4.324.254.184.254.314.384.444.514.534.56

Years1871187218731874187518761877187818791880
Total Fertility Rate in Belgium4.834.854.874.854.834.824.84.784.754.71

Years189118921893189418951896189718981899
Total Fertility Rate in Belgium4.224.24.174.134.094.064.023.983.91

Total fertility rate; 1.71 children born/woman Country comparison to the world: 160th
Birth rate; 11.03 births/1,000 population Country comparison to the world: 175th
Mother's mean age at first birth; 29 years

Life expectancy

According to estimation of the Statistics Belgium, life expectancy at birth in Belgium in 2023 was 82.28 years.
According to alternative estimation of the World Bank Group, in 2023 life expectancy in Belgium was 82.4 years.
Estimation of the United Nations for 2023: 82.11 years total.
Estimation of Eurostat for 2023: 82.5 years total.
According to estimation of the WHO for 2019, at that year life expectancy in Belgium was 81.4 years. And healthy life expectancy was 70.6 years.
In 2021-2023 period, the difference in life expectancy between the most prosperous and disadvantaged provinces was 4.09 years. In 2020-2022, this difference was 4.23 years.

Statistics by province

Belgium is administratively divided into 3 regions: Flemish Region, Walloon Region and a separate Brussels Capital Region. In turn, Flemish and Walloon regions are divided into five provinces each. The table below contains average values for 3-year periods. The values are rounded, all calculations were done on raw data. By default, the table is sorted by the 2022-2024 period.
Data source: Statistics Belgium

Statistics by region

Data source: Statistics Belgium

Historical data

Sources: Our World In Data and the United Nations.
1841–1950
Years1841184218431844184518461847184818491850
Life expectancy in Belgium40.338.640.441.941.037.835.138.035.042.3

Years1861186218631864186518661867186818691870
Life expectancy in Belgium41.243.141.339.837.732.443.042.542.640.9

Years1881188218831884188518861887188818891890
Life expectancy in Belgium44.445.544.944.245.443.346.044.945.044.1

Years1901190219031904190519061907190819091910
Life expectancy in Belgium49.449.149.249.349.949.651.049.650.651.3

Years1921192219231924192519261927192819291930
Life expectancy in Belgium54.755.156.757.457.156.957.157.455.057.1

Years1941194219431944194519461947194819491950
Life expectancy in Belgium58.959.160.356.958.461.963.464.965.466.3

1950–2015
PeriodLife expectancy in
Years
PeriodLife expectancy in
Years
1950–195567.81985–199075.3
1955–196069.51990–199576.4
1960–196570.31995–200077.4
1965–197070.72000–200578.4
1970–197571.52005–201079.6
1975–198072.72010–201580.5
1980–198573.92015–202081.44

Age structure

Median age in 2020 ; total: 41.6 years.

Density

Urbanization; urban population: 98.1% of total population

Vital statistics

Source:
Territorial changes in East-Belgium occurred in 1940 and 1944
Notable events in Belgian demographics:
Average population Live birthsDeathsNatural changeCrude birth rate Crude death rate Natural change Crude migration change Total fertility rates
1840138,142103,90234,240
1841138,13597,10841,027
1842135,027103,06831,959
1843132,91197,05535,856
1844133,97694,91139,065
1845137,01297,78339,229
1846119,610107,83511,775
1847118,106120,168-2,062
1848120,383108,28712,096
1849133,185121,46211,723
18504,403,222131,41692,82038,59629.821.18.71.84.38
18514,449,733134,38294,77939,60330.221.38.91.24.32
18524,494,811134,39596,18938,20629.921.48.5-0.14.25
18534,532,434127,815100,16627,64928.222.16.11.54.18
18544,566,802131,981103,21028,77128.922.66.30.14.25
18554,596,081125,933112,60413,32927.424.52.9-94.31
18564,568,264134,30797,30437,00329.421.38.1-11.44.38
18574,553,349143,430103,36140,06931.522.78.81.54.44
18584,600,217144,907108,10536,80231.523.58.02.24.51
18594,647,212149,640111,53338,10732.224.08.23.54.53
18604,701,611144,81093,09251,71830.819.811.00.84.56
18614,757,126147,471106,56040,91131.022.48.62.44.58
18624,809,411145,725100,03645,68930.320.89.524.61
18634,864,794155,673107,99847,67532.022.29.80.94.63
18644,916,796155,862116,03639,82631.723.68.11.24.66
18654,962,461156,318122,57333,74531.524.76.8-18.24.68
18664,906,092157,976151,1086,86832.230.81.4-10.24.71
18674,862,814157,069105,52351,54632.321.710.63.24.73
18684,929,719156,237107,45448,78331.721.89.92.64.76
18694,991,490158,071109,81348,25831.822.09.834.78
18705,054,581164,460118,28346,17732.623.49.204.80
18715,100,753158,723145,37813,34531.128.62.55.94.83
18725,144,359167,474120,42747,04732.523.49.14.54.85
18735,214,416170,365112,55457,81132.721.611.14.44.87
18745,295,214174,104109,58864,51632.920.712.21.94.85
18755,369,786175,604122,39653,20832.722.89.9-104.83
18765,369,562176,655116,58360,07232.921.711.2-10.34.82
18775,374,458175,081114,50060,58132.621.311.31.84.80
18785,444,835172,727117,24055,48731.721.510.21.24.78
18795,506,897174,044121,15252,89231.722.09.7-5.74.75
18805,528,432171,992123,31148,68131.122.38.8-4.44.71
18815,552,928175,473117,16758,30631.621.110.51.74.68
18825,620,522176,474114,08862,38631.420.311.10.94.64
18835,688,002174,618119,44855,17030.721.09.71.74.61
18845,752,883176,633120,81055,82330.721.09.71.84.55
18855,819,118175,168117,55457,61430.120.20.82.04.49
18865,881,627175,261124,69350,56829.821.28.61.74.42
18875,942,359175,302115,27860,02429.519.410.104.36
18886,002,393175,880121,24954,63129.320.29.10.84.30
18896,061,921177,612120,02757,58529.319.89.5-6.34.27
18906,081,560176,366126,49849,86829.020.88.2-4.74.25
18916,102,883181,868128,27553,59329.821.18.81.54.22
18926,165,900177,576133,81543,76128.821.77.13.14.20
18936,228,814183,113125,82057,29329.420.29.22.64.17
18946,302,115181,497118,48263,01528.818.810.01.84.13
18956,376,371183,002124,96958,03328.719.69.134.09
18966,453,335188,433113,57674,85729.217.611.624.06
18976,541,240191,013113,82277,19129.217.411.81.54.02
18986,628,163190,906113,00077,90628.817.111.70.23.98
18996,707,132194,507113,00081,50729.016.912.1-10.43.91
19006,719,000193,230126,63366,59728.818.89.9−5.73.84
19016,747,000199,068113,13685,93229.516.812.72.33.79
19026,848,000195,076116,07579,00128.517.011.52.13.73
19036,941,000191,563115,88475,67927.616.710.91.93.68
19047,030,000191,067117,09773,97027.216.710.52.03.63
19057,118,000186,665115,48671,17926.216.210.01.53.57
19067,200,000185,508115,51469,99425.816.09.71.13.52
19077,278,000184,371112,65671,71525.315.59.90.33.47
19087,352,000183,046118,99764,04924.916.28.70.43.42
19097,419,000175,714115,02760,68723.715.58.2−5.63.95
19107,438,000175,768110,40365,36523.614.88.8−6.23.31
19117,457,000171,029119,89651,13322.916.16.93.03.26
19127,531,000170,465109,40561,06022.614.58.11.73.2
19137,605,000170,102108,29661,80622.414.28.1-0.63.15
19147,662,000156,389108,72047,66920.414.26.2−1.63.22
19157,697,000124,291100,67423,61716.113.13.1−2.63.04
19167,701,00099,360101,044−1,68412.913.1−0.2−4.22.99
19177,667,00086,675124,824−38,14911.316.3−5.0−3.92.94
19187,599,00085,056157,340−72,28411.220.7−9.55.22.89
19197,566,000128,236112,98615,25016.914.92.0−11.92.87
19207,491,000164,257102,70661,55121.913.78.2−14.52.78
19217,444,000162,401100,46861,93321.813.58.30.72.73
19227,511,000152,779104,15548,62420.313.96.51.82.67
19237,573,000156,00599,11356,89220.613.17.52.12.62
19247,646,000153,38798,33255,05520.112.97.26.12.57
19257,748,000153,19099,56953,62119.812.96.95.42.51
19267,843,000148,840101,01847,82219.012.96.11.62.46
19277,903,000144,211103,00741,20418.213.05.23.02.41
19287,968,000145,953102,27043,68318.312.85.52.52.36
19298,032,000145,542115,90129,64118.114.43.71.82.3
19308,076,000150,271103,39746,87418.612.85.80.42.25
19318,126,000147,489103,77343,71618.212.85.42.02.22
19328,186,000143,824104,22139,60317.612.74.80.72.19
19338,231,000134,754104,64030,11416.412.73.70.12.08
19348,262,000131,73696,85134,88515.911.74.2−1.12.04
19358,288,000126,304102,13224,17215.212.32.90.41.94
19368,315,000125,511101,59523,91615.112.22.90.81.95
19378,346,000125,495104,16321,33215.012.52.60.81.99
19388,374,000130,133104,68425,44915.512.53.0−1.02.11
19398,391,000126,257110,39315,86415.013.21.9−12.62.1
19408,301,000110,323125,083−14,76013.315.1−1.8−1.21.84
19418,276,00098,417118,670−20,25311.914.3−2.4−1.21.66
19428,246,000105,749117,291−11,54212.814.2−1.40.81.81
19438,241,000120,665107,76712,89814.613.11.64.52.06
19448,291,000124,075124,861−78615.015.1−0.15.92.12
19458,339,000127,245121,1556,09015.314.50.72.72.17
19468,367,000146,731110,41336,31817.513.24.35.62.53
19478,450,000144,979108,13636,84317.212.84.48.32.47
19488,557,000148,210103,57644,63417.312.15.21.52.45
19498,614,000144,670106,70437,96616.812.44.4−1.52.39
19508,639,000142,970104,03938,93116.512.04.502.33
19518,678,000142,524107,68834,83616.412.44.02.02.34
19528,730,000146,142103,62442,51816.711.94.90.62.35
19538,778,000146,522106,02440,49816.712.14.60.12.37
19548,819,000148,128104,79543,33316.811.94.90.72.4
19558,868,000148,798108,31640,48216.812.24.61.72.42
19568,924,000150,181108,01642,16516.812.14.72.62.6
19578,989,000152,388107,23645,15217.011.95.02.12.49
19589,053,000155,694105,74649,94817.211.75.50.12.53
19599,104,000160,662103,51357,14917.611.46.3−0.92.57
19609,153,000155,520113,10642,41417.012.44.6−1.22.6
19619,184,000158,262106,25952,00317.211.65.71.62.64
19629,251,000154,338111,54542,79316.712.14.63.72.59
19639,328,000158,196115,61842,57817.012.44.66.12.68
19649,428,000160,371109,34251,02917.011.65.42.12.71
19659,499,000154,856114,50740,34916.312.14.2−1.12.62
19669,528,000150,636114,55736,07915.812.03.81.82.52
19679,581,000145,899114,50931,39015.212.03.30.72.41
19689,619,000141,242121,27519,96714.712.62.12.22.31
19699,660,000140,834119,37521,45914.612.42.2−2.62.27
19709,656,000141,119119,62321,49614.612.42.21.82.25
19719,695,000139,104118,85320,25114.312.32.1−0.42.21
19729,711,000134,437116,74317,69413.812.01.81.42.09
19739,742,000129,425118,31311,11213.312.11.12.01.95
19749,772,000123,155116,0397,11612.611.90.72.31.83
19759,801,000119,273119,273012.212.20.01.71.74
19769,818,000120,472118,7651,70712.312.10.21.01.72
19779,830,000121,523112,2089,31512.411.40.90.11.71
19789,840,000121,983115,0606,92312.411.70.70.11.69
19799,848,000123,658112,15611,50212.611.41.2−1.11.69
19809,849,000124,794114,36410,43012.711.61.1−0.11.69
19819,859,000124,827113,30811,51912.711.51.2−1.51.67
19829,856,000120,382112,5067,87612.211.40.8−0.81.61
19839,856,000117,395114,8142,58111.911.60.3−0.41.56
19849,855,000115,790110,5775,21311.711.20.5−0.21.53
19859,858,000114,283112,6911,59211.611.40.20.21.51
19869,862,000117,271111,6715,60011.911.30.60.21.54
19879,870,000117,448105,84011,60811.910.71.22.01.57
19889,902,000118,764104,55114,21312.010.61.42.21.57
19899,938,000120,550107,33213,21812.110.81.31.61.58
19909,967,000123,554104,54519,00912.410.51.9−0.71.62
19919,978,681125,412104,22321,18912.510.42.12.21.66
199210,021,997125,322103,85821,46412.510.32.12.51.65
199310,068,319120,835106,71514,12012.010.61.41.81.61
199410,100,341116,408103,68812,72011.510.21.31.71.56
199510,130,398115,327104,71010,61711.410.31.00.21.56
199610,142,776116,262104,22812,03411.410.31.21.51.59
199710,170,226116,125103,82212,30311.410.21.21.01.60
199810,192,264114,561104,6079,95411.210.31.01.11.60
199910,213,752113,710104,9338,77711.110.30.91.61.62
200010,239,085115,157104,92110,23611.210.21.01.41.67
200110,263,414114,428103,47410,95411.110.11.13.41.67
200210,309,725111,484105,6675,81710.810.20.63.91.65
200310,355,844112,388107,0685,32010.810.30.53.41.67
200410,396,421115,908101,96413,94411.19.81.33.51.72
200510,445,852118,290103,30514,98511.39.91.44.91.76
200610,511,382121,695101,61420,08111.59.61.95.11.80
200710,584,534125,228102,06023,16811.89.62.25.41.82
200810,665,140128,049104,58723,46212.09.82.26.01.85
200910,753,080127,297104,50922,78811.89.72.16.01.84
201010,839,905129,173105,09424,07911.99.72.28.11.85
201110,951,266127,655104,24723,40811.79.52.15.61.81
201211,035,948126,993109,03417,95911.59.91.64.21.79
201311,099,554124,862109,29515,56711.29.81.43.21.75
201411,150,516124,415104,72319,69211.29.41.83.41.74
201511,209,044121,713110,50811,20510.99.91.04.31.69
201611,267,910121,161108,05613,10510.89.61.23.61.68
201711,322,088119,102109,6299,47310.59.70.84.01.64
201811,376,070117,800110,6457,15510.49.70.64.31.61
201911,431,406117,103108,7458,35810.29.50.74.61.60
202011,492,641113,739126,850−13,1119.911.0−1.13.61.55
202111,521,238117,914112,2915,62310.39.80.55.01.60
202211,584,008113,593116,380−2,7879.810.0−0.310.11.53
202311,697,557110,198111,255−1,0579.59.6−0.15.71.47
202411,763,650108,150112,029−3,8799.29.5−0.34.41.44
202511,825,551113,0889.6

Structure of the population

Age groupMaleFemaleTotal%
Total5 401 7185 598 92011 000 638100
0–4330 184315 328645 5125.87
5–9310 560296 765607 3255.52
10–14313 738300 722614 4605.59
15–19331 790317 228649 0185.90
20–24344 647339 446684 0936.22
25–29351 045349 328700 3736.37
30–34364 728358 208722 9366.57
35–39375 815365 389741 2046.74
40–44401 530388 365789 8957.18
45–49418 827409 340828 1677.53
50–54391 809389 431781 2407.10
55–59349 489352 842702 3316.38
60–64320 714330 190650 9045.92
65−69230 217249 982480 1994.37
70−74205 382242 992448 3744.08
75−79171 538230 056401 5943.65
80−84115 591189 197304 7882.77
85−8957 963122 532180 4951.64
90−9413 54139 16752 7080.48
95−992 41210 98013 3920.12
100+1981 4321 6300.01
Age groupMaleFemaleTotalPercent
0–14954 482912 8151 867 29716.97
15–643 650 3943 599 7677 250 16165.91
65+796 8421 086 3381 883 18017.12

Age groupMaleFemaleTotal%
Total5 644 8265 810 69311 455 519100
0–4315 177300 999616 1765.38
5–9340 923325 662666 5855.82
10–14336 284320 521656 8055.73
15–19323 790307 712631 5025.51
20–24341 598328 722670 3205.85
25–29374 924371 623746 5476.52
30–34368 166368 614736 7806.43
35–39377 157374 627751 7846.56
40–44368 567362 807731 3746.38
45–49393 483384 045777 5286.79
50–54406 309396 620802 9297.01
55–59395 854395 473791 3276.91
60–64349 994360 409710 4036.20
65−69298 587317 045615 6325.37
70−74249 942281 596531 5384.64
75−79165 281206 039371 3203.24
80−84131 154188 231319 3852.79
85−8976 742138 520215 2621.88
90−9426 04463 74389 7870.78
95−994 64016 41021 0500.18
100−1042011 1881 3890.01
105−10998493<0.01
110+033<0.01
Age groupMaleFemaleTotalPercent
0–14992 384947 1821 939 56616.93
15–643 699 8423 650 6527 350 49464.17
65+952 6001 212 8592 165 45918.90

Immigration

Since the relaxation of the Belgian nationality law, more than 1.3 million migrants have acquired Belgian citizenship and are now considered new Belgians. 89.2% of inhabitants of Turkish origin have been naturalized, as have 88.4% of people of Moroccan background, 75.4% of Italians, 56.2% of the French and 47.8% of Dutch people.
In 2007, there were 1.38 million foreign-born residents in Belgium, corresponding to 12.9% of the total population. Of these, 685 000 were born outside the EU and 695 000 were born in another EU Member State.
Net migration rate; 4.58 migrant/1,000 population

Belgium migration data

YearImmigrationEmigrationNet migration
194889,92460,06129,863
194931,79563,801−32,006
195027,92246,569−18,647
195159,95451,6208,334
195252,15046,5665,584
195339,96445,613−5,649
195434,60441,834−7,230
195551,10639,03712,069
195652,59343,7248,869
195768,79443,22125,573
195847,12449,322−2,198
195932,31543,215−10,900
196042,24839,1273,121
196136,08842,646−6,558
196252,74439,08413,660
196372,58643,16129,425
196492,33448,51143,823
196580,76154,16726,594
196671,07853,88717,191
196763,71352,96710,746
196857,12256,628494
196955,24350,9884,255
197062,14356,3715,772
197162,70843,34119,367
197262,47454,7917,683
197364,25052,60311,647
197471,86652,67019,196
197569,88653,73916,147
197658,72456,9211,803
197755,29855,076222
197852,59458,495−5,901
197954,85459,552−4,698
198054,69458,212−3,518
198149,29860,194−10,896
198244,65961,931−17,272
198343,65761,339−17,682
198447,00256,447−9,445
198547,04254,021−6,979
198648,95953,793−4,834
198749,75057,033−7,283
198854,04854,082−34
198960,06749,43910,628
199068,92949,24619,683
199174,61760,47114,146
199280,19155,41124,780
199378,37659,84318,533
199481,86564,23417,631
199578,45964,82213,637
199678,04665,16712,879
199776,44969,7166,733
199880,19473,1996,995
199987,91575,86612,049
200090,41276,84813,564
2001111,86676,56635,300
2002115,54277,12138,421
2003113,79480,76433,030
2004119,14385,47433,669
2005135,28988,21647,073
2006139,59589,57650,019
2007151,06993,95257,117
2008164,152100,27563,877
2009166,479103,71862,761
2010166,18886,71979,469
2011161,50899,42262,086
2012149,095104,69744,398
2013146,645111,81434,831
2014153,926113,97539,951
2015158,032110,36047,672
2016160,480118,24542,235
2017163,918119,38244,536
2018166,894116,71450,180
2019174,591119,56055,031
2020144,169102,41341,756
2021165,534107,41658,118
2022233,629117,085116,544
2023194,887128,53866,349
2024194,212128,16866,044

Country of origin201320152017201920202021202220232024
Total population11,099,55411,209,04411,322,08811,431,40611,492,64111,521,23811,584,00811,697,59711,763,650
Belgium

Employment and income

Unemployment, youth ages 15–24; total: 15.8%.

Education

Literacy; Definition: age 15 and over can read and write
School life expectancy ; total: 20 years

Origin groups

Belgium does not collect data on ethnicity or race, but does collect data on the country of origin of citizens.
The largest group of immigrants and their descendants in Belgium are Italian Belgians, with more than 450,000 people, which is well over 4% of Belgium's total population. The Moroccan Belgians are the third-largest group, and the largest Muslim ethnic group, numbering 340,359. According to Michèle Tribalat in the beginning of 2020, people of foreign background and their descendants were estimated to have formed 32.1% of the total population. According to Statbel, 65.5% of the Belgian population was Belgian with a Belgian background in 2024. The Belgian background by age group was 51.8% among those under 18, 62.1% among 18-64-year-olds and 85.5% among those aged 65 and over.
Of these 'New Belgians', 55.1% are of non-Belgian European ancestry and 44.9% are from non-Western countries.
The rest consists mostly of French-speaking people from Brussels, Turks, Kurds, Dutch, French, Portuguese, Spaniards, Greeks, Bosniaks, Algerians, Congolese, Vietnamese, Poles, Indians, and Guineans. Approximately 30,000 Roma live in Belgium.
The exact number of French-speakers in Brussels is hard to determine, but it is estimated that 85% of the people living in Brussels use French and 10% use Dutch in their households, as the sole language or secondary language, while Arabic is also largely spoken. See the Brussels article for more details.
In the table are the top 30 countries by origin of the population of Belgium in 2020
CountryNumber % of population of foreign origin% of total population
Morocco

Naturalisation

Foreign nationals can only apply for Belgian nationality after 5 years of legal residence in Belgium. The requirements for Belgium nationality are You have been legally resident in Belgium for at least 5 years, You have a right to remain indefinitely, You are integrated in Belgium, for example you have a certificate of integration, You speak and write 1 of the 3 national languages, and You have already worked at least 468 days. Since the year 2000 there has been 910,067 naturalised persons.
ContinentNaturalised PersonsPercentage of Total
Europe344,92337.9%
Asia133,18314.6%
Africa362,30839.8%
America30,7833.4%
Oceania4540.05%
Others38,4164.2%
Total910,067100%

RankCountryNumber of Naturalised Persons
1Morocco

Languages

Belgium's three official languages are Dutch, spoken by about 60% of the population, French, spoken by about 40%, and German, spoken by less than 1%. The vast majority of Belgium's population, 99%, is literate as defined by the Belgian government, i.e. capable of reading and writing in an official language by the time a citizen has reached the age of 15. English is the official language of the European Commission, 10% of the job market in Brussels.

Religion

According to the European Social Survey in 2023, people who did not belong to a religion comprised 59% of the Belgian population. The share of Christians was 34%, with Catholicism being the largest denomination at 31% of the population. Protestants and other Christians comprised 2% and Orthodox Christians comprised 1%. Islam is the second largest religion with 6% of the population being Muslim. As of 2012, 58% of Belgians identify as Catholic. Other Christians comprise 7% of the population. Muslims comprise 5%. 27% of Belgians are agnostics, atheists or otherwise irreligious.