Winchester Dialogues


Winchester Dialogues refers to two works of Early English Drama found in Winchester College MS 33, first published by Norman Davis in 1979. Occupation and Idleness is a mid-fifteenth century interlude or play, although it is referred to as a "dialogue". Lucidus and Dubius is better described as a semi-dramatic dialogue rather than a play.

''Lucidus and Dubius''

The following two stanzas serve to provide a general description of Lucidus and Dubius.LUCIDUS: A, douteful Dubius, doubtful Dubius!
  • The cause there-of is this.
  • The first maide that ever was
  • was Eve, Adamys wyf.
  • Sche wrou3t the first trespas
  • and made al oure wo and stryf;
  • and as thurgh a mayde deth come in
  • and al men were lore,
  • Crist so wolde be Mary Virgyn
  • alle the world restore.

Modern English translation

LUCIDUS: Ah, doubtful Dubius, doubtful Dubius!

''Occupation and Idleness''

The following two stanzas serve to provide a general description of Occupation and Idleness.OCCUPACION: Ydelnes is nat ferre, as thynkith me,
  • And so Y tolde one ryght now.DOCTRINE: Ydelnes, where is he?OCCUPACION: Yonder, syr, as ye may se,
  • And scorneth both me and yow.DOCTRINE: Ydelnes, come nere
  • And lerne of me som curtesie.YDELNES: Y shrew me and Y come ther
  • While thou art so angry.

Modern English translation

OCCUPACION: It seems to me that Idleness is not far
  • And so I told you right now.DOCTRINE: Idleness, where is he?OCCUPACION: Over there, sir, as you will see,
  • And scorns both you and I.DOCTRINE: Idleness, come here
  • And learn some courtesy from meYDELNES: I curse myself if I come to you
  • While you are so angry.