Frankie Neil


Frankie Neil was a World Bantamweight champion. Fighting at 114 1/2 pounds, he took the world title from reigning champion Harry Forbes on August 13, 1903, at the Mechanics Pavilion in San Francisco in a second-round knockout of a match scheduled for twenty rounds. Eddie Graney was the referee. Neil held the title only a little over a year, losing it on October 17, 1904, to British boxing champion Joe Bowker.
Neil later was reputed to have lost much of his boxing fortune at the horse track and from investing in race horses. He worked for Standard Oil in his retirement from boxing.

Early career

Not long before his first attempt at the bantamweight championship, on April 11, 1902, Neil fought a grueling fifteen-round draw against Eddie Hanlon, who was only seventeen at the time. The lengthy bout was considered an epic one, and both boxers later remarked to the Oakland Tribune that they were completely exhausted after the bout. Their close bout in Oakland, California, was marked by Neil's skills at fighting from a distance, as the Tribune noting Neil's defensive skills wrote, "At long range Neil was by far the cleverer of the two and he landed repeatedly on Hanlon...." Neil's scientific boxing skills were noted in the battle when the Tribune wrote, though Hanlon appeared the stronger, more aggressive boxer, "Neil had the cleaner punch and landed as often as Hanlon, but did not have the force to his blows."
Neil first tried for the bantamweight title against Harry Forbes on December 23, 1902, but lost in a seventh-round TKO in Oakland, California. In a wind up to the title between November 1900 and March 1902, Neal won an impressive seven of eight bouts in the San Francisco area by early knockout or technical knockout. During the two year windup, he fought against such competent boxers as George White, George Margarini, Tommy Dixon, and Kid Malone.

World Bantamweight champion

Neil took the world title from reigning champion Harry Forbes on August 13, 1903, at the Mechanics Pavilion in San Francisco in a second-round knockout of a match scheduled for twenty rounds. According to the St. Paul Globe, the winning blow was a hard left to the stomach of Forbes. Forbes had been a two to one betting favorite prior to the bout due to his standing as reigning champion, though many boxing fans still backed Neil to win. In the brief two rounds of boxing, Forbes had been down three times, probably surprising many in the audience.
Image:Joe Bowker.jpg|150 px|left|thumb|Joe Bowker, 1904 Bantamweight Champion
According to at least the World Boxing Association, Neil lost the World Bantamweight title on October 17, 1904, to British boxer Joe Bowker at the National Sporting Club in London in an historic twenty round points decision. As globally recognized boxing associations with the ability to sanction titles were in their infancy in 1904, some dispute as to when Neil lost his title may exist in news articles of the period.
Neil took the American Bantamweight Title from Harry Tenny on July 28, 1905, in a twenty-five round bout at the Colma Club in Colma, California. Six months later, on February 28, 1906, he knocked out Tenny in the fourteenth round at the Mechanics Pavilion in San Francisco, a frequent venue for Neil. According to the San Francisco Examiner, Neil had won from "start to finish". Tragically, Tenny died the following day of injuries sustained during or aggravated by the bout. Neil claimed years later in an interview that he was never able to hit with the same ferocity after hearing of the death of Tenny.

Attempt at Featherweight title

On July 4, 1906, Neil would move up a class and take a shot at the World Featherweight Championship against the exceptional reigning champion Abe Attell, who had held the title since 1902, but would retain it for an additional six years. He lost the 20 round bout in a points decision at the Naud Junction Pavilion in Los Angeles. The length of the fight may have been a result of Neil's skills as a boxer, or Attell's desire to stretch the bout feeling well matched with Neil. Of their 1906 meeting, the Los Angeles Herald wrote in pre-fight publicity that "The bout will be one of the greatest ever held in Los Angeles, and will attract attention from all over the world, in as much as a world championship is at stake and the battlers are rated as among the cleverest boxers in the ring." The Herald also noted "Neil is more of a fighter than a boxer" and it is "seldom that any featherweight has shown the brand of a punch possessed by Neil." Neil may have been considered a clever scientific boxer by some, but these skills, in the opinion of most boxing historians, were far surpassed by those of Attell. In December 1906, Neil wrote an article for the Oakland Tribune noting that he was robbed by the referee in the decision against him in his July 4 bout with Attell in Los Angeles, and that he had given Attell, the "worst licking of his career." It is questionable if most of the boxing fans present would have agreed with Neil.
Neil would lose to Attell again at Dreamland Rink in San Francisco on January 31, 1908, in a thirteenth of twenty-round TKO. Years later, in an interview in 1961, Attell claimed he had been motivated to beat Neil as a result of anti-semitic remarks he had heard Neil, whom he had known since childhood, make during the fight.

Boxing decline, 1907

In his ill-advised comeback to the ring on November 22, 1907, Neil lost badly to the accomplished boxer Owen Moran at the Dreamland Rink in San Francisco. As noted by The San Francisco Call, of his eight-month hiatus from boxing, "it is this letup which is the factor that is hard to estimate in figuring upon his chances." Though sometimes taking on top talent, such as Young Brit, and Monte Attell, Neil lost 13 of 21 of his better publicized bouts after his loss to Moran.
Neil would then lose to the great lightweight boxer Ad Wolgast in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, in a ten-round points decision on May 6, 1908.

Last Bantam title shot

On June 19, 1909, Neil would unsuccessfully attempt to retake the then vacant World Bantamweight Title from Monte Attell, brother of Abe, but lose in an eighteen of twenty-round knockout in Colma, California. Monte Attell would take the title and hold it for several years. According to the Oakland Tribune, Attell won every round. Neil was knocked out by a full left under the chin in the eighteenth round, but was markedly tired by the fifteenth. According to the Tribune, Attell was observed to be chewing gum in the eighth round, a tactic used by his featherweight championship brother Abe. The Tribune wrote that Neil was not the boxer of the caliber he had been a few years previously, though Attell was a boxer of exceptional skill.

Later life and death

Neil was working for Standard Oil in Richmond, California by June 1926, and had lived in Richmond since the early 1920s. In 1926, he would on occasion referee boxing matches at El Cerito, and Richmond, California. He had previously lost his boxing fortune from investing in a large stable of race horses and from his personal losses from betting on the races.
He died on March 6, 1970, at 86, in Richmond, California after an illness of several months, and was buried three days later at Mt. Olivet Cemetery in the South San Francisco suburb of Colma. Neil had been working as a janitor at a local Post Office in his later years, living at Point Richmond.

Professional boxing record

All information in this section is derived from BoxRec, unless otherwise stated.

Official record

All newspaper decisions are officially regarded as “no decision” bouts and are not counted to the win/loss/draw column.
No.ResultRecordOpponentTypeRoundDateLocationNotes
58Loss27–13–4 Willie JonesTKO13 Feb 25, 1910Albaugh Theater, Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.
57Loss27–12–4 Abe AttellNWS10Feb 24, 1910Long Acre A.C., New York City, New York, U.S.
56Win27–12–4 Young BrittDQ13 Jan 28, 1910Albaugh Theater, Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.
55Loss26–12–4 Billy LauderPTS15Sep 29, 1909 Larson's Pavillion, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
54Win26–11–4 Patsy McKennaKO1 Sep 10, 1909North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
53Loss25–11–4 Monte AttellKO18 Jun 19, 1909Coffroth's Arena, Colma, California, U.S.For world bantamweight title claim
52Draw25–10–4 Bert O'DonnellNWS6May 14, 1909Luzerne Theater, Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, U.S.
51Win25–10–4 Young BrittDQ11 May 4, 1909Monumental Theater, Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.
50Loss24–10–4 Owen MoranNWS12Apr 26, 1909Anchor A.C., New Haven, Connecticut, U.S.
49Loss24–10–4 Abe AttellNWS10Mar 23, 1909Bedford A.C., Brooklyn, New York City, New York, U.S.
48Loss24–10–4 Kid BeebeNWS10Mar 1, 1909American A.C., Schenectady, New York, U.S.
47Loss24–10–4 Boyo DriscollNWS10Feb 18, 1909Fairmont A.C., Bronx, New York City, New York, U.S.
46Loss24–10–4 Owen MoranPTS12Dec 14, 1908Armory A.A., Boston, Massachusetts, U.S.
45Loss24–9–4 Joe WagnerNWS6Oct 19, 1908Roman A.C., New York City, New York, U.S.
44Draw24–9–4 Joe WagnerNWS6Oct 3, 1908Old City Hall, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.
43Loss24–9–4 Frankie MooreNWS6Oct 2, 1908State A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
42Loss24–9–4 Tommy O'TooleNWS6Sep 19, 1908National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
41Win24–9–4 Jack LangdonKO5 Sep 5, 1908National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
40Win23–9–4 Freddie O'BrienNWS6Aug 13, 1908Long Acre A.C., New York City, New York, U.S.
39Loss23–9–4 Ad WolgastPTS10May 6, 1908Green Valley A.C., Milwaukee, Wisconsin, U.S.
38Loss23–8–4 Abe AttellTKO13 Jan 31, 1908Dreamland Rink, San Francisco, California, U.S.For world featherweight title
37Loss23–7–4 Owen MoranTKO16 Nov 22, 1907Dreamland Rink, San Francisco, California, U.S.
36Loss23–6–4 Harry BakerPTS20Aug 7, 1906Naud Junction Pavilion, Los Angeles, California, U.S.
35Win23–5–4 Kid LongTKO2 Jul 27, 1906Naud Junction Pavilion, Los Angeles, California, U.S.
34Loss22–5–4 Abe AttellPTS20Jul 4, 1906Naud Junction Pavilion, Los Angeles, California, U.S.For world featherweight title
33Win22–4–4 Harry TennyKO14 Feb 28, 1906Mechanic's Pavilion, San Francisco, California, U.S.Tenny died the following day from injuries suffered during this bout
32Win21–4–4 Harry TennyPTS25Jul 28, 1905Colma Club, Colma, California, U.S.Won vacant American bantamweight title
31Win20–4–4 Dick HylandKO15 Jan 31, 1905Woodward's Pavilion, San Francisco, California, U.S.
30Loss19–4–4 Joe BowkerPTS20Oct 17, 1904National Sporting Club, Covent Garden, London, EnglandLost world bantamweight title
29Loss19–3–4 Harlem Tommy MurphyNWS6Aug 31, 1904National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
28Win19–3–4 Hughey McGovernNWS6Jul 27, 1904National A.C., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, U.S.
27Win19–3–4 Harry ForbesKO3 Jun 17, 1904Waverly A.C., Chicago, Illinois, U.S.
26Win18–3–4 Tommy MooreKO1 May 27, 1904Battery D Armory, Chicago, Illinois, U.S.
25Draw17–3–4 Johnny ReaganPTS20Oct 16, 1903Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California, U.S.Retained world bantamweight title
24Win17–3–3 Billy DeCourseyTKO15 Sep 4, 1903Hazard's Pavilion, Los Angeles, California, U.S.
23Win16–3–3 Harry ForbesKO2 Aug 13, 1903Mechanic's Pavilion, San Francisco, California, U.S.Won world bantamweight title
22Win15–3–3 Clarence ForbesKO6 Jan 15, 1903Mechanic's Pavilion, San Francisco, California, U.S.
21Loss14–3–3 Harry ForbesTKO7 Dec 23, 1901Reliance A.C., Oakland, California, U.S.For world bantamweight title
Referee Smith disallowed claims of a foul
20Draw14–2–3 Eddie HanlonPTS15Apr 11, 1901Old Exhibition Building, Oakland, California, U.S.Retained Pacific Coast bantamweight title
19Win14–2–2 Robbie JohnsonKO2 Mar 12, 1901Mechanics' Pavilion Annex, California, U.S.Won vacant Pacific Coast bantamweight title
18Loss13–2–2 Eddie HanlonPTS4Jul 31, 1901Mechanic's Pavilion, San Francisco, California, U.S.For vacant Pacific Coast bantamweight title
17Win13–1–2 Tommy DixonKO1 Jun 20, 1901Mechanics' Pavilion Annex, San Francisco, California, U.S.
16Win12–1–2 Harry McLaughlinKO2 Jun 6, 1901Mechanics' Pavilion Annex, San Francisco, California, U.S.
15Win11–1–2 Harry BakerKO1 May 27, 1901Mechanic's Pavilion, San Francisco, California, U.S.
14Win10–1–2 George MargariniTKO3 May 3, 1901Mechanics' Pavilion Annex, San Francisco, California, U.S.
139–1–2 Dave GilmoreNC1 Apr 18, 1901Mechanic's Pavilion, San Francisco, California, U.S.Police intervened
12Win9–1–2George WhiteKO1 Mar 15, 1901Bay City A.C., San Francisco, California, U.S.
11Win8–1–2George DohertyTKO4Feb 20, 1901Bay City A.C., San Francisco, California, U.S.
10Draw7–1–2George WhitePTS4Jan 23, 1901Bay City A.C., San Francisco, California, U.S.
9Draw7–1–1George WhitePTS4Jan 10, 1901California, U.S.
8Win7–1Kid GoldieKO2 Dec 28, 1900West Oakland Club, Oakland, California, U.S.
7Win6–1Kid MaloneTKO1 Dec 26, 1900Bay City A.C., San Francisco, California, U.S.
6Win5–1Kid GoldieKO2 Dec 17, 1900Bay City A.C., San Francisco, California, U.S.
5Loss4–1Eddie HanlonPTS5Dec 12, 1900Washington Hall, San Francisco, California, U.S.
4Win4–0Ivy PowellTKO2 Dec 7, 1900Woodward's Pavilion, San Francisco, California, U.S.
3Win3–0George GibbKO2 Dec 5, 1900Bay City A.C., San Francisco, California, U.S.
2Win2–0John ScottKO1 Nov 19, 1900Bay City A.C., San Francisco, California, U.S.
1Win1–0Charles AndersonKO1 Nov 8, 1900Palo Alto Hall, San Francisco, California, U.S.