Portland Timbers–Seattle Sounders rivalry


The Portland Timbers–Seattle Sounders rivalry is a soccer rivalry between the Portland Timbers and Seattle Sounders FC, both based in the Pacific Northwest region of the United States. The rivalry originated in the North American Soccer League of the 1970s, with both cities reviving expansion teams, and has carried into lower-level leagues, including the A-League and USL First Division. The rivalry moved to Major League Soccer, the top division of soccer in the United States, in 2011, where it has grown into one of the largest in American soccer.
According to many players, the Seattle–Portland rivalry is one of the only true derbies that is present in American men's soccer. The rivalry has since grown into one of the largest and most bitter rivalries in American soccer. Alan Hinton, a former English international and ex-Sounders coach, has compared the rivalry to those seen in the English Premier League. It is considered to be one of the most intense rivalries in the United States. In 2018, Matt Pentz of ESPN FC dubbed the derby "MLS' premier rivalry", stating that the "series' longevity lends it an authenticity that no other rivalry in MLS can match."
Seattle and Portland have had rivalries based on various sports teams. A heated rivalry surrounded the Portland Buckaroos and Seattle Totems of the minor-league Western Hockey League in the 1960s. Later, some fans supported the Thunderbirds or Winterhawks hockey teams. This rivalry "naturally translated into soccer" according to one fan. The two cities also had a rivalry between the SuperSonics and Trail Blazers of the NBA, known as the I-5 rivalry, since both cities are connected by Interstate 5.

History

NASL era

The Seattle Sounders and [Portland Portland Timbers|Timbers (1975–82)|Portland Timbers] first played each other on May 2, 1975; in the Timbers' inaugural game. Seattle defeated Portland 1–0 in front of 8,131 at Portland Civic Stadium, now known as Providence Park. The return match, played on July 26, 1975 saw Portland play spoils and defeat the hosts, Seattle 2–1, in front of a crowd of 27,310. A month later, Portland knocks Seattle out of the playoffs in front of crowd of 31,000.
On June 30, 1979, Seattle defeated Portland 5–1 in the Kingdome in front of a season high 34,000 spectators. Until the 1980s, it would stand as the largest victory in the derby, and is the largest victory by either side in the top tier of American soccer. In the 5–1 victory, Seattle's Derek Smethurst netted a hat trick.
At the end of the North American Soccer League season, the Portland Timbers franchise was forced to fold, once team expenditures outpaced club income. Consequently, the 1–0 Sounders victory over the Timbers on August 22, 1982 ended up being the final meeting between the two sides in the North American Soccer League. It would not be for nearly 30 years, in 2011, the two sides would meet against one another in the top flight of American soccer.

NASL indoor

In the 1980–81 NASL Indoor season the two clubs faced one another for the first time in indoor soccer. On November 21, 1980 in front of 7,885 at Portland's Memorial Coliseum, the Timbers won, 6–4. The Sounders would claim victory in the next four meetings. Portland won the final three rivalry matches of 1981–82 indoor, including the teams' last-ever indoor match-up, 6–4, on the strength of Dale Mitchell's hat trick on February 5, 1982.

WSL/WSA era

At the end of the 1983 NASL season, the original Seattle Sounders franchise terminated, with the league itself ceasing operations ahead of the 1985 season. In 1984, a Western Soccer Alliance franchise was granted to the Seattle area for a soccer club in the area that was branded as the Seattle Storm, and went under the F.C. Seattle moniker for a while. The following year, a WSA franchise was also granted to the Portland area, where the rivalry continued through the late 1980s into the early 1990s.

USL

After an 11-year hiatus, the rivalry continued in 2001, when the newly incarnated Portland Timbers hosted the Seattle Sounders on May 11, 2001 at the same stadium where the rivalry began, which was now known as PGE Park. In front of a crowd nearly 12,300, the hosts walked away with a 2–0 victory.
July 21, 2001, former U.S. National Team player, Brian Ching, would score the only goal in 1–0 Sounders victory over the Timbers, as over 11,000 would be in attendance in Portland.
Ahead of the 2004 season, supporters of both the Sounders, Timbers, and their rival up the I-5 corridor, the Vancouver Whitecaps, created the Cascadia Cup which would be given to the supporters whose team had a stronger record against the two sides. The first formal Cascadia Cup match between the two resulted in a Timbers victory, defeating the Sounders 2–0 on May 1, 2004. During the four regular season meetings during that season, the Sounders lost thrice, and had one victory over Portland. However, in the 2004 USL First Division Playoffs, their first playoff meeting since 1975, the Sounders won 3–2 on aggregate over Portland, posting a 2–0 home victory in the second leg.
On September 18, 2005, Seattle knocked Portland out of the playoffs for a second straight year, as Sounders defeated the Timbers 2–0 in Seattle.
In Seattle, Sounders defeated the Timbers 3–1 on July 22, 2006, in a hotly contested match that accumulated eight yellow cards, and one red.
On May 10, 2008, in front of over 10,000 at Qwest Field, Seattle and Portland played out a 0–0 draw in the final match the two teams would play each other in Seattle in the USL-1. On August 7, 2008, the Timbers and Sounders played each other for a final time in the Division 2 league, USL-1. Seattle defeated Portland 1–0 on the historic night, in front of a rambunctious 12,332 fans. The high intensity match also included a total of six cards handed out, and one ejection.

MLS era

On July 1, 2009, Seattle eliminated Portland 2–1 before a sold-out PGE Park crowd in the U.S. Open Cup. Roger Levesque — a player Portland fans have had a particular dislike for — scored Seattle's first goal within the opening minute. Levesque completed a goal celebration, in which he stood still at the top of the Timbers penalty area while Nate Jaqua pretended to chop him down like a tree, ending with Levesque falling flat on his back.
A cold and rainy night on March 11, 2010, Portland defeated Seattle 1–0 in a preseason community shield charity match. The crowd of 18,606 in attendance that night at Qwest Field is one of the largest crowds to attend a preseason game between two U.S. teams in American soccer history.
In hoping to stoke the rivalry for the future 2011 Major League Soccer season — when the Timbers would be joining the Sounders in MLS — Portland unveiled a billboard displaying a Timbers crest and the words Portland, Oregon and Soccer City USA less than a mile from Qwest Field in Seattle. The billboard was broadcast to a nationwide audience on ESPN2 during halftime of the Sounders home match versus Real Salt Lake that evening.
In March 2011, the Timbers defeated the Sounders 2–0 in the preseason Cascadia Summit, a round robin game event involving the two teams and their Canadian rival, Vancouver Whitecaps FC. In their first match as both MLS sides, and the first time since 1982 the two played in top division American soccer the Timbers and the Sounders battled to a draw at a rain-soaked Qwest Field in front of 36,593 in the highly anticipated MLS debut of the three-way Cascadia Cup. This was a stadium record crowd to see a regular season MLS match, and included more than 500 traveling Portland fans. The return match, on July 10, 2011 saw Seattle earn a 3–2 road victory.
On October 7, 2012, Seattle hosted Portland at CenturyLink Field in front of 66,452 people, the second-largest stand-alone crowd in MLS history. The Timbers had their second chance of the year to clinch their first Cascadia Cup contested by all three sides, but lost 3–0 to the host Sounders.
In the fourth round of the 2015 U.S. Open Cup, the Sounders hosted the Timbers at the Starfire Sports Complex in Tukwila, Washington. Seattle, the defending champions of the Open Cup, lost 3–1 and ended the match with only six players after three were sent off by the referee with red cards and Obafemi Martins was injured after all three substitutions had been used. The final red card was given to Clint Dempsey for tearing up the notebook of referee Daniel Radford, for which he was suspended an additional three Open Cup matches. The match was later nicknamed the "Red Card Wedding" by fans, a reference to an episode of the television series Game of Thrones with a "red wedding".
From 2015 through 2021, either Portland or Seattle represented the MLS Western Conference in the MLS Cup title game. Seattle won two titles in four appearances, while Portland won one in three; the Timbers also won the 2020 MLS is Back Tournament, held during the COVID-19 pandemic. From 2018 to 2022, the home team won only one of eleven rivalry matches played during the MLS regular season. An August 2021 match at Providence Park ended in a 6–2 Sounders victory, the largest margin in the rivalry's history and the most goals conceded by the Timbers in any league competition. From May 2017 to October 2025, Portland was unbeaten in the 10 regular season away games played at Lumen Field in Seattle.
On August 29, 2021, the Sounders and OL Reign hosted a men's–women's doubleheader with their respective opponents from Portland. The women's match, a 2–1 Reign victory, set a National Women's Soccer League attendance record, with 27,248 spectators, and was followed by 45,737 for the Sounders' 2–0 loss to the Timbers. A similar doubleheader was played on June 3, 2023, with 42,054 spectators reported for the Sounders match.

Supporter groups

A bitter rivalry between the teams' supporter groups exists. The Portland Timbers are supported by the Timbers Army, and Seattle Sounders by the Emerald City Supporters. The spirited groups have always showed a deep amount of resentment toward each other throughout the years. With the close proximity of the two cities, traveling fans of both sides witness hostile environments while visiting the opposing stadium. A rare moment of violence broke out in March 2010 after a preseason Timbers win in Seattle, when, three Sounders fans assaulted a Timbers fan, choking and dragging him with his team scarf.
On March 20, 2009, at the Portland MLS expansion rally, League Commissioner Don Garber mentioned what a great region the Pacific Northwest is for soccer, and gave an example by the success of the new MLS team Seattle Sounders FC. However, his comment was met with heavy boos, and jeers coming from the Timbers Army surrounding him. Portland mayor, Sam Adams, then offered a challenge to the Seattle mayor, for when the Timbers and Sounders meet in 2011.

Attendance

RnkDateCompetitionAttendanceVenue
1MLS67,385CenturyLink Field
2MLS66,452CenturyLink Field
3MLS64,358CenturyLink Field
4MLS64,207CenturyLink Field
5MLS53,302CenturyLink Field

Players and transfers

A large portion of the Sounders-Timbers rivalry can be seen on the soccer field itself. Before Seattle made the jump to MLS, many onfield rivalries between the players existed. As the years progressed, this would only enhance the level of competition, and intensify the matches. An example of this was the notable rivalry between Timbers defender Scot Thompson and Sounders striker Roger Levesque. Levesque played in Seattle from 2006-2012, while Thompson played in Portland from 2004 to 2010.
Another reason the rivalry intensified was the transfer of star players between the two teams. While many players transferred to the other rival city from when the Timbers resumed play in 2001, the most memorable was the signing of Portland's all time assist leader, and fan favorite Hugo Alcaraz-Cuellar to Seattle in 2007. That same season, Seattle star Andrew Gregor signed with Portland, thus creating tensions on the field, as the players became familiar with each other. While playing for the Sounders in 2003, Gregor had said "A lot of the guys, we know each other from years back, and we don't get along and stuff. It's always exciting."
NASL and USL matches between the teams were intense and more physical than other teams in the leagues. Former Sounders head coach Sigi Schmid said in 2010 that Seattle, Portland, and Vancouver playing in the same league again will be "something that's going to be one of the key features of MLS". The first of these was Seattle fan favorite Mike Fucito who came to Portland via the Montreal Impact on April 20, 2012.

Cups

Between 2004 and 2008, the USL Seattle Sounders, Portland Timbers, and Vancouver Whitecaps competed for the supporter created Cascadia Cup, to be awarded to the club who finished with the best record in each season series between the three teams. The Cascadia Cup was created to celebrate the strong rivalries between each of the three clubs. Seattle won the Cascadia Cup twice in this five-year period while Portland never won. Seattle was not involved in the 2009 or 2010 competitions, both of which were won by Portland. While both Seattle and Portland consider Vancouver to be a rival, both of the U.S. fanbases consider their rivalries with Vancouver more cordial than with one another. In a 2011 story on the rivalry by Sports Illustrated writer Grant Wahl, one Timbers Army member said about Vancouver fans, "It's hard to dislike them because they're so nice", and an Emerald City Supporters member added, "They're like the nice cousin that's never going to offend anyone at a party." The MLS versions of the Whitecaps, Sounders and Timbers resumed contesting the Cascadia Cup, beginning with the 2011 season.

Results

''For statistical purposes, matches that went to shoot-outs are counted as draws and denoted with an '*'.''

A-League/USL era

SeasonDateCompetitionStadiumHome TeamResultAway TeamAttendanceSeriesRef
2001May 11A-LeaguePGE ParkPortland Timbers2–0Seattle Sounders12,295 POR 1–0–0
2001May 12A-LeagueMemorial StadiumSeattle Sounders2–1Portland Timbers2,112 Tied 1–1–0
2001July 13A-LeagueMemorial StadiumSeattle Sounders0–0Portland Timbers3,253 Tied 1–1–1
2001July 21A-LeaguePGE ParkPortland Timbers0–1Seattle Sounders11,055 SEA 2–1–1
2002May 4A-LeaguePGE ParkPortland Timbers0–2Seattle Sounders8,775 SEA 3–1–1
2002May 5A-LeagueMemorial StadiumSeattle Sounders4–1Portland Timbers2,756 SEA 4–1–1
2002June 23A-LeaguePGE ParkPortland Timbers1–0Seattle Sounders3,890 SEA 4–2–1
2002July 19A-LeagueMemorial StadiumSeattle Sounders2–1Portland Timbers2,595 SEA 5–2–1
2003May 1A-LeaguePGE ParkPortland Timbers0–1Seattle Sounders5,993 SEA 6–2–1
2003May 2A-LeagueSeahawks StadiumSeattle Sounders2–0Portland Timbers5,017 SEA 7–2–1
2003May 18A-LeagueSeahawks StadiumSeattle Sounders1–0Portland Timbers3,945 SEA 8–2–1
2003August 9A-LeaguePGE ParkPortland Timbers0–1Seattle Sounders6,831 SEA 9–2–1
2003August 10A-LeagueSeahawks StadiumSeattle Sounders1–3Portland Timbers2,990 SEA 9–3–1
2003August 18A-LeaguePGE ParkPortland Timbers1–0Seattle Sounders6,329 SEA 9–4–1
2004May 1A-LeaguePGE ParkPortland Timbers2–1Seattle Sounders6,891 SEA 9–5–1
2004May 15A-LeagueSeahawks StadiumSeattle Sounders0–1Portland Timbers3,907 SEA 9–6–1
2004July 17A-LeagueQwest FieldSeattle Sounders3–4Portland Timbers3,457 SEA 9–7–1
2004July 24A-LeaguePGE ParkPortland Timbers0–2Seattle Sounders4,267 SEA 10–7–1
2004September 1A-League playoffsPGE ParkPortland Timbers2–1Seattle Sounders4,863 SEA 10–8–1
2004September 5A-League playoffsQwest FieldSeattle Sounders2–0Portland Timbers3,490 SEA 11–8–1
2005April 30USLQwest FieldSeattle Sounders1–2Portland Timbers6,351 SEA 11-9-1
2005July 8USLStarfire Sports ComplexSeattle Sounders4–2Portland Timbers3,204 SEA 12–9–1
2005July 12U.S. Open CupPGE ParkPortland Timbers2–0Seattle Sounders2,462 SEA 12–10–1
2005August 7USLPGE ParkPortland Timbers1–0Seattle Sounders4,227 SEA 12-11-1
2005August 20USLPGE ParkPortland Timbers1–1Seattle Sounders8,242 SEA 12–11–2
2005September 16USL playoffsPGE ParkPortland Timbers0–1Seattle Sounders5,667 SEA 13–11–2
2005September 18USL playoffsStarfire Sports ComplexSeattle Sounders2–0Portland Timbers2,543 SEA 14–11–2
2006June 2USLQwest FieldSeattle Sounders0–0Portland Timbers2,251 SEA 14–11–3
2006June 3USLPGE ParkPortland Timbers3–1Seattle Sounders6,149 SEA 14–12–3
2006July 21USLPGE ParkPortland Timbers1–2Seattle Sounders6,215 SEA 15–12–3
2006July 22USLQwest FieldSeattle Sounders3–1Portland Timbers2,993 SEA 16–12–3
2007May 5USLQwest FieldSeattle Sounders1–0Portland Timbers8,247 SEA 17–12–3
2007May 11USLPGE ParkPortland Timbers2–2Seattle Sounders5,722 SEA 17–12–4
2007June 26U.S. Open CupStarfire Sports ComplexSeattle Sounders2–1Portland Timbers711 SEA 18–12–4
2007August 1USLQwest FieldSeattle Sounders2–0Portland Timbers3,287 SEA 19–12–4
2008April 26USLPGE ParkPortland Timbers2–0Seattle Sounders9,894 SEA 19–13–4
2008May 10USLQwest FieldSeattle Sounders0–0Portland Timbers10,184 SEA 19–13–5
2008August 7USLPGE ParkPortland Timbers0–1Seattle Sounders12,332 SEA 20–13–5
2009July 1U.S. Open CupPGE ParkPortland Timbers1–2Seattle Sounders FC16,382 SEA 21–13–5
2010June 30U.S. Open CupPGE ParkPortland Timbers1–1*Seattle Sounders FC15,422 SEA 21–13–6

MLS era

SeasonDateCompetitionStadiumHome teamResultAway teamAttendanceSeriesRef
2011May 14MLSQwest FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–1Portland Timbers36,593Tied 0–0–1
2011July 10MLSJeld-Wen FieldPortland Timbers2–3Seattle Sounders FC18,627SEA 1–0–1
2012June 24MLSJeld-Wen FieldPortland Timbers2–1Seattle Sounders FC20,438Tied 1–1–1
2012September 15MLSJeld-Wen FieldPortland Timbers1–1Seattle Sounders FC20,438Tied 1–1–2
2012October 7MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC3–0Portland Timbers66,452SEA 2–1–2
2013March 16MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–1Portland Timbers40,150Tied 2–1–3
2013August 25MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–0Portland Timbers67,385SEA 3–1–3
2013October 13MLSJeld-Wen FieldPortland Timbers1–0Seattle Sounders FC20,674SEA 3–2–3
2013November 2MLS Cup playoffsCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–2Portland Timbers38,507Tied 3–3–3
2013November 7MLS Cup playoffsJeld-Wen FieldPortland Timbers3–2Seattle Sounders FC20,674POR 4–3–3
2014April 5MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers4–4Seattle Sounders FC20,814POR 4–3–4
2014July 9U.S. Open CupStarfire Sports ComplexSeattle Sounders FC3–1Portland Timbers4,233Tied 4–4–4
2014July 13MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC2–0Portland Timbers64,207SEA 5–4–4
2014August 24MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers2–4Seattle Sounders FC20,814SEA 6–4–4
2015April 26MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–0Portland Timbers41,451SEA 7–4–4
2015June 16U.S. Open CupStarfire Sports ComplexSeattle Sounders FC1–3Portland Timbers4,022SEA 7–5–4
2015June 28MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers4–1Seattle Sounders FC21,144SEA 7–6–4
2015August 30MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC2–1Portland Timbers64,358SEA 8–6–4
2016July 17MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers3–1Seattle Sounders FC21,144SEA 8–7–4
2016August 21MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC3–1Portland Timbers53,302SEA 9–7–4
2016August 28MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers4–2Seattle Sounders FC21,144SEA 9–8–4
2017May 27MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–0Portland Timbers47,362SEA 10–8–4
2017June 13U.S. Open CupStarfire Sports ComplexSeattle Sounders FC2–1Portland Timbers3,937SEA 11–8–4
2017June 25MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers2–2Seattle Sounders FC21,144SEA 11–8–5
2017August 27MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–1Portland Timbers51,796SEA 11–8–6
2018May 13MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers1–0Seattle Sounders FC21,144SEA 11–9–6
2018June 30MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC2–3Portland Timbers47,521SEA 11–10–6
2018August 26MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers0–1Seattle Sounders FC21,144SEA 12–10–6
2018November 4MLS Cup playoffsProvidence ParkPortland Timbers2–1Seattle Sounders FC21,144SEA 12–11–6
2018November 8MLS Cup playoffsCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC3–2 Portland Timbers39,542SEA 13–11–6
2019June 12U.S. Open CupCheney StadiumSeattle Sounders FC1–2Portland Timbers6,280SEA 13–12–6
2019July 21MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–2Portland Timbers50,072Tied 13–13–6
2019August 23MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers1–2Seattle Sounders FC25,218SEA 14–13–6
2020August 23MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers0–3Seattle Sounders FC0SEA 15–13–6
2020September 6MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–2Portland Timbers0SEA 15–14–6
2020September 23MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers2–1Seattle Sounders FC0Tied 15–15–6
2020October 22MLSCenturyLink FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–1Portland Timbers0Tied 15–15–7
2021May 9MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers1–2Seattle Sounders FC0SEA 16–15–7
2021August 15MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers2–6Seattle Sounders FC25,218SEA 17–15–7
2021August 29MLSLumen FieldSeattle Sounders FC0–2Portland Timbers45,737SEA 17–16–7
2022July 9MLSLumen FieldSeattle Sounders FC0–3Portland Timbers47,722Tied 17–17–7
2022August 26MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers2–1Seattle Sounders FC25,218POR 18–17–7
2023April 15MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers4–1Seattle Sounders FC25,218POR 19–17–7
2023June 3MLSLumen FieldSeattle Sounders FC0–0Portland Timbers42,054POR 19–17–8
2023September 2MLSLumen FieldSeattle Sounders FC2–2Portland Timbers37,037POR 19–17–9
2024May 12MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers1–2Seattle Sounders FC25,218POR 19–18–9
2024August 31MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers1–0Seattle Sounders FC25,218POR 20–18–9
2024October 19MLSLumen FieldSeattle Sounders FC1–1Portland Timbers36,341POR 20–18–10
2025May 17MLSProvidence ParkPortland Timbers1–1Seattle Sounders FC25,218POR 20–18–11
2025Oct 4MLSLumen FieldSeattle Sounders1–0Portland Timbers32,913POR 20–19–11
2026July 16MLSLumen FieldSeattle Sounders FCPortland TimbersTBD
2026August 1MLSProvidence ParkPortland TimbersSeattle Sounders FCTBD
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Western Conference standings finishes

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• Total: Seattle with 11 higher finishes, Portland with 4.